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Following on from their successful partnership with martin baker British watch maker Bremont recently teamed up with another iconic British brand, Norton motorcycle  to produce a stunning limited edition chronograph. Created to celebrate the return of Norton to British soil after a long absence the piece exemplifies Bremont’s classic style and passion for engineering.

A c1924 Model 18 Norton

A c1924 Model 18 Norton; with a few extra bits and pieces fitted that may have to do with the electric lights? Martin: "The ER numbers were first issued by Cambridgeshire in July 1922, and finished in September 1928 when the VE series started." Simon: "Note the usual Best and Lloyd oil pump but the outlet from it does not go to a Y-piece for dripping onto both inlet and exhaust cams - as later - but just goes to a single union above the exhaust cam..."

1923 Model 16H Norton

Sent by David in the UK

David: "I have recently unearthed this Norton 16H. It has been in a shed for the last 30 years and I think it is quite interesting as it has a separate oil tank and a mousetrap carburettor. I have been told it was raced by a Mr Jack Underwood. The bike will be kept in this condition and not restored."

Simon: "The numbers (frame number 65XX and engine number 42XX) match up - albeit the frame number is shown in the Works records as 65XXs. However the info in the records is disappointingly sparse. The model is shown as 16H and the magneto number as 122914, with Brown and Barlow carburetter and 26 x 2 1/2 tyres.  No gearbox number given. On the despatch details page, all that is entered is the 'card number' (I guess this is the works job card or build card for the bike) 3743. At this stage, this situation seems to have been commonplace - on this particular page (the first that exists incidentally) of 19 entries only 10 show the dealers to whom the bikes were sent and no end user details are shown atall. Despatch dates shown for the ten are all in the range November '22 to January '23. All were 16Hs. 


Regarding the 16H, it does look 'later'. I guess yes a 1923 model originally. I think the separate oil tank was fitted to the '23 works bikes and doubtless could be ordered if wanted but perhaps was a later fitment. The tank looks wide for this date. Also note the forks are the posh variety of Druids with the dampers - not fitted as standard. Fitting a mousetrap Binks was the twenties equivalent of the 'go faster' stick-on stripes for cars in the fifties/sixties. But bear in mind that the early twenties 16H could be made to go. Driscoll reckoned his ex works 16H was better by far than the first OHV bike he got! The oil pump is a later fitment too - furthermore it is a Pilgrim and not a Best and Lloyd. 


I don't know of any Jack Underwood though there are a couple of J. Underwoods who were VMCC members in the 1988 VMCC members list - one living in Blandford and the other in Crawley. One of them (the Blandford one) was a member in 1973 but neither in 1960....Judging by the Blandford Underwood's membership number he must have joined the club in the late sixties.  None of this is really much help!"


Martin:"The registration is a Gloucester County Council one issued in 1929, so whatever it did between 1923 and 1929, it did so with another identity.  By 1929, a 16H would have been passe, but as I know from running a 1920 16H, they have a lot more spirit than many early OHVs, and it would still have been a capable performer in 1929."

Geoff's 1928 Model 16H Norton

Sent by Geoff in the UK

Geoff: "Above two pics of my 1928 16H when I bought it in 2006. As you can see it was an oily rag. I only let it go in 2007 because I wanted the Zenith Super Eight a friend was selling and he wouldn't let me have the Zenith unless I swapped the Norton in exchange! For some reason the carb was removed. It now has the correct cylinder as it came with a later barrel and separate head. The friend I sold it to has restored it to his liking (below). I have recently bought it back!

It came from the Isle of Man and the reg no MN 1150 has now been taken off as an Isle of Man number cannot be used in the UK. In the UK we can keep and transfer registration numbers so as I had the number TT 1358 (which I took from a Mini car I had one time) I have put it on the 16H. I have an original 7" Horton front wheel I am going to fit. It has a post war carb and I have a spare B&B carb. that should be OK"

1910 Model 3 1/2 Norton

This Norton is an original machine. It belonged to Eric Langton (brother of Oliver). It came out of South Australia about 40 years ago. It had corroded crankcases and Eric made a pattern and cast new ones but I have the original cases in my shed. I took these and lots more photos in the ally way behind the house where it is stored. I then took it home and fixed the magneto and rode it a few times. It went really well. I spent a far amount of time talking with Eric about pattern making and lots about riding for the Scott factory in the TT and then lots about world champianship speed way racing, all very interesting. I have just about finished a pattern for the cylinders for this machine if someone needs one.

Dan O'Donovan on a c1920 Model 16H Norton

Roger:"The registration and the chain drive indicates a post-war event. From the registration and the riding number my best estimate is the 1920 Isle of Man TT where Dan was team manager."

Martin:"The interesting thing about this picture of O'Donovan is that it has a Leicester number. Look at page 62 of the Woollett book (above) and you will see the Norton camp at the 1920 TT. The bike at the front which isn't described in Woollett's caption belonged to Leicester motorcycle dealer Harold Petty and below is an extract of the Leicester county records showing the details of this bike which was finally scrapped in 1934, its last owner having had it attached to a sidecar, a sad end for an ex TT bike! .

Petty retired in the 1920 TT but Nortons did better than ever that year, coming 2, 4, 7, 8. 10, 11, 13 and 14, and four other Norton riders apart from Petty retired. 11th was Norman Black on the last Norton belt drive TT entry, a pretty good effort for his first ever TT ride, the start of a longish TT career through the twenties. The question I would want to ask about this picture is was this a Petty-owned (and hence Leicester registered) bike, and if so, why was O'Donovan riding it? I will get the entry from the Leicester public record office so we can see whose bike it was!! Possibly it was a bike ridden in the 1920  by a rider who retired and maybe D'Donovan rode it before or after the race, as he wasn't a rider himself by that time, his only TT rides being 1913 and 1914."

Update 05 July: I now have the registration data on this machine, and it was actually a 1920 4HP Model 1 (ie a Big Four) not a 16H at all.  That said, the machine pictured looks suspiciously like a 16H as the frame and tank of a Big Four are normally different around the steering head, so the mystery deepens.  What is certain however is that the machine was originally registered to Harold Petty as I suspected, the number dates from 1920 (19 May to be precise) and the machine is frame no 2530, engine no 20328, which is a bit earlier than the 16H Petty rode in the 1920 TT (frame no 2692, engine no 20389). Still no idea why Dan O'Donovan should have been pictured astride the machine, or what the race the number attached refers to...

As with all things to do with Nortons, the more you find out, the more you realise that nothing is as straightforward as it seems.

Petty's dealership was still active in Leicester until it closed in the 1970s.  I found a nice piece about them on another blog...

"At the top end of London Rd was Leicester's own Velocette dealer- Messr's Petty's. Here was a place where time stood still. The cut and thrust of business in the 1970's was not really for them. Customers were addressed as "sir" and the whole manner was more akin to a gents outfitters than a busy motor-cycle shop. Many of us called in on a Saturday afternoon, not to part with money, but to listen to "young" Harold recall the halcyon days of motor cycling. If anyone wished to buy something, Saturday Geoff was summoned, and the part required described in detail. In a scene reminiscent of Grace Brothers "are you being served" he would enquire if Hilda (who had an encyclopedic knowledge of all things Velocette) was "free". She would then fetch the part, place it in a bag for you, issue a till receipt and amend the stock records. 

Meanwhile outside Petty's the entertainment continued, with us teenagers gathering around to watch various motor cyclists following the starting procedure, or ritual, to bring a hot engined Velo into life. It seemed to us that the number of kicks to start a Velo was directly proportional to the number of people watching!! 

Sometime in the 70's Petty's closed, and the names, faces, and genteel procedures passed into motor-cycling folk-lore."

1939 Norton Model 50

A very nice and original 1939 "oily-rag condition" Model 50 from Andy Tiernan's website. This is the 350cc version of the Model 18. Note the inclined pushrod tubes and the absence of the oilpressure tell-tale. Priced at £5000.

Roker Box

Pagi isnin yang damai dan tenang........Roker Box aku tertinggal di kedai mesin shop...tempat aku buat valve guide....adoi parah.......Lepas sarapan jam 8.30...aku pun menuju tempat dihatiku....Alamak...!!!!! belum bukak lagi la kedainya.....
Sabar perasaan bercampur aduk dengan was-was...kot kot Roker Box aku hilang dari simpanannya...adus..
parah......
Singgah di kedai mamak yang ada WIFI on LP...pastu aku tulis nie la....
Bersambung...............

Head T100

Head In Progress

Head Triumpah T100

Head Triumph T100

DI SATU PAGI MINGGU YANG CERIA

Sekitar jam 5.30 pagi di pagi minggu, hajat dihati untuk ke masjid akan ku tunaikan...untuk berjemaah solat subuh....Triumph T100 trophy 500 ku berada di dalam selimut pagi....ku buka bungkusannya latas aku belek-belek sambil melihat apa yang leaking atau ada yang tak kene pada jentera british keluaran tahun 1945 ini...

Oh ya....gambar nie di ambil lebih kurang 2 bulan yang lepas...
Aku pun mula mengorak langkah melepaskan stand  dari menongkat jentera ku dan Aku usung ke luar laman..tanpa berlengah lagi aku pun mencapai baldi dan kain buruk.....lama tak belai besi buruk nie...
Seingat aku 3 bulan lebih tak panaskan engine nie....setelah selesai mengelap .......... aku pun start engine triumph nie...ergh..........................................................memang betul dia nak manja dengan tuannnya.....
lama tak sentuh.......tu yang payah sikit tu nak idup......

Bukak plug gosok gosok laplap......ada dua bijik pluh untuk triumph  nie...kanan dan kiri..selesai servisplug......aku cek apinya.....ada....!!!!!!!! harapan pun 65 % nak idup ada.....
Aku pun pum minyak masuk ke karburetor...................
alamak.............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tangki hampir kering rupanya....patut la tak nak idup......34x aku start......
PERGH>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sabar..................
aku pun relexs sebentar di kerusi pangkin untuk aku menarik nafas ....letih ..................
JAM 7.30 PAGI AKU PUN MENGHALA KE petronas BERDEKATAN UNTUK MENDAPATKAN BEKALAN GAS...OPS.....MINYAK PETROL.......

Triumph

On the way pulang tadi tayar kurang angin pergh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
berhenti di stesen shell....nampaknya mendukacitakan...semuanya Rosak..

Ape pun semangat biker tetapmembara...

My valve Triumph T100

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My Valve....

Flyweel

Lama terperap.........
karat pun tak disimpan dalam kotak yang besikan minyak hitam..
Tahun 1990 awal......rasta dapat spare part triumpah nie....
kalau nak dikira banyak masa dan wang ringgit yang dihabiskan untuk  classic nie...
Ape pun kedua orang tua rasta tak menghalang minat rasta terhadap dunia permotoran ini...
Terima kasih yang terhingga pada mereka....
Ada 4 set flyweel nie...semua dalam keadaan asal..
Ianya memerlukan  masih seperti dulu kala .....agak rasta besi yang digunakan pada masa tu mungkin jenis yang tulin dan campurannya memang untuk digunakan bagi ketahanan yang agak lama...
Bayangkan kalau..........di hitung..umur besi nie....dah menjangkau usia 69 tahun..
Bersambung..............

Triumph Tiger 100 OldStock